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No Liberty at Liberty?
May 23, 2009, 10:19
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Liberty                BUT NOT THE  DEMOCRAT CLUB, FOR THEM THE SIGN IS: 

D-no-democrats               News out of Liberty,  No Democrat club on our Campus!!!

Liberty University spurns Democratic club

WASHINGTON – Liberty University will no longer recognize its campus Democratic Party club because its parent organization stands against the conservative Christian school’s moral principles.

The club, which has about 30 members, will no longer be able to use Liberty’s name, hold on-campus meetings, or be eligible for student activities money.

“I think it does the university a great disservice to stifle one side of the discussion simply because we are Democrats,” said Maria Childress, the club’s adviser and an administrative assistant at the school.

Brian Diaz, president of Liberty’s Democratic club, said he was informed of the school’s decision in a May 15 e-mail.

“The candidates supported are directly contrary to the mission of Liberty University,” the e-mail said.

Liberty has had a College Republicans club for years. The Democratic club formed in October and worked aggressively to elect President Obama.

“They . . . let the Liberty University College Republicans stay on campus, but they don’t let us,” said Diaz, 18, who will be a sophomore next year. “Sounds like censorship to me.”

Childress said she is trying to appeal the decision to Jerry Falwell Jr., who became the Lynchburg school’s chancellor after his father died in 2007. In the meantime, students who violate the rule face reprimands under the school’s conduct code, which could result in expulsion. 

 

Being currently out of a paying position I would like to suggest to Liberty University that they hire me in a new post, called “The Guy who Advises Us on how not to look like Fascist Idiots”.   I would work cheap, from my own home, and save them lots of time and energy, and serve my God and His Kingdom by preventing a fine institution from a foolish act.  

I know how these decisions are reached.  In a small group of like minded people  someone brings up an idea, packs it into a snowball and it begins to roll down the mountainside until a village is wiped out in the avalanche.  My suggestion is that I be allowed to examine the snowball for signs of intelligent life.  If not me I nominate Andy Stanley, or Charles Stanley, or Stanley the maintenance man from the local high school.  Someone who is a bit out of the forest so that a tree may be examined individually. The view from the Ivory tower is always myopic.  Seriously, our own Jeofurry would be perfect.  He is one of their own, not a dispy, and coming from the far country of North Dakota, knows a bit about snowballs.  

This is NUTS!  There are 30 people on campus, 30 out of thousands of students and faculty  who chose to belong to the Dems. What threat or danger are they to the campus at large?  Can the administration not see that shutting them down does more damage than good?  The latest news is that the group may meet on campus, but not be recognized.  I am not a fan of the  party of Pelosi and Obama, not at all,  but the whole point of our free society is to allow divergent beliefs to be expressed.  Here is a short list of why if I were  “the Guy” this snowball would have been tossed on the stove.

  1. Closing down a Democratic club shows no faith in a two party system.
  2. The bad press generated by this will fill atheist  blogs for years.
  3. It is possible that this group sought change from within.  I deplore some Republican methods and strategies, but I will stay to use my vote to , hopefully, bring the party back in line with my values.  If I leave I will not advocate the dissolution of the party.
  4. College is where youth rebel.  Does anybody remember hearing an old adage that goes something like: “If you’re not a liberal when you’re in your twenties you haven’t got a heart; if you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 40 you haven’t got a brain.”   I registered as a democrat at age 18 to vote for Al Harris in the primary. I represented 10% of his votes in my state.   At twenty I was an active Republican and have been since, although Libertarian is looking good these days.
  5. At a time when we want Christian bible studies on school and college campuses, this attitude of exclusivity serves poorly.  We need increased dialogue with the other side, yet we fear it? 

So I say, “Oi vey ist Mir” or, “I carumba ” or, ” Man, what were you thinking?”  Liberty has a student behavior clause that states no student can harm the Witness of the University.  No worries, no student could do the harm the administration did with one really foolish decision. 

 

Ouch!  That is really going to hurt!

Ouch! That is really going to hurt!

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I have seen the enemy and he is us.

Comment by Shawn W

This muzle on the exercise of free speech usually comes from the other side (note the lack o conservative professors or speakers on college campuses all over this country and efforts by the left to keep them out). But conservative Christian’s are quite capable of the same stupid tactics that the ‘left’ generally employs to snuff out any voice of opposition.

Comment by theoldadam

Will….didn’t you know the Lord is republican? My niece is a senior at Liberty…I’ll have to talk to her about this….I’m somewhat surprized, but old enough to not be too surprized.

Comment by Ike

is anyone really surprised?

Comment by graceshaker

I am surprised. If that is an IQ test , ok I failed. When an action is taken by any group, the question of effect must be asked. What effect will the decision have. If this decision is not made what effect will inactivity have. The Democratic party will not be injured, but Liberty was.

Ike , I have heard that! I need to see the registration for myself to believe it. Lord forgive us for our foolishness and pride.

Comment by willohroots

I have never been a major Libery University fan (Jerry Fallwell’s univesity). I was watching some Christian sermon before going to Church one sunday. Great songs about Jesus and great songs about the Gospel. Then Jerry Fallwell got up and gave a sermon on why global warming is a myth! I just about crapped in my pants. The one agenda and issue that a conservative could side with Jerry decided to waste the “Gospel” for an issue that is amoral and that Christians really do not have to take sides on.

What a wasted moment to share the gospel and ruined because Jerry (rest his soul) had an political agenda.

Please move spadinfamily.wordpress.com to centralityofthegospel.wordpress.com on your blog roll.

Comment by centralityofthegospel

I have a firm belief that sermons should be biblical. I might agree with his point, as when i was growing up we were told the earth was going to freeze. Check this site out, it seems really well done.http://wattsupwiththat.com/

I would fear to lose a soul over a political point. i avoid a lot of politics here at willohroots for that purpose.
The only real exposure i have had to Liberty is through Jeofurry. I have seen his syllabus on a class and it looks good. Don’t judge the book by it’s central figure on the cover, i am sure they do good work. I have great faith in the heart of Jeofurry and if it wee a bad place he would not be there, we all make mistakes. I will add the new link Joe!

Comment by willohroots

I missed the party earlier, but I thought I would give a little bit of the unreported story from Liberty’s side of the fence. The Democrat club still exists at the university. The university just refuses to endorse or provide money to the club when they violate the terms of the agreement. This is part of the statement that Liberty sent to all of its students after the news broke:

Over the last several decades, Democratic clubs have existed at Liberty University as unofficial student clubs not endorsed by the school. Last Fall, the College Democrats asked that the university officially recognize their club. They promised to support only pro-life candidates and their charter provides that the club supports the right to life. Unfortunately, the club supported candidates over the last 8 months that support abortion rights. As a result, Liberty University converted the club’s status back to that of an unrecognized club. It was not banned as so many press outlets irresponsibly reported. The club can continue to exist and meet on campus like other clubs and student groups that are not officially recognized by the university. They cannot use Liberty University’s name, will not receive the small financial subsidy that officially recognized clubs receive (about $500 per year on average) and they cannot hold public events on campus. There will be no other restrictions on their activities. Liberty University encourages free speech and open debate on its campus and free speech will not be restricted.

Liberty University is not singling out the Democratic Party in this action. If a Republican club supporting abortion sought endorsement from the University, it would be denied. The sanctity of life is one of Liberty University’s non-negotiable core values and it simply cannot lend its name or financial support to any group that actively works against Liberty’s core values.

A student club of Democrats who are pro-life and pro-family, and who are seriously intent on bringing positive change to the Democratic Party, would be refreshing. But the rhetoric must match the actions, meaning that such a club seeking official recognition would not want to endorse policies or candidates contrary to Liberty’s mission. Such a group should state in its’ name its’ distinctive mission to immediately tell the world that this club stands for the core values of Liberty University.

We hope that our students bring positive change to all political parties, not just Democrats, but also Republicans and Independents. These groups could debate many topics, but agree on Liberty’s core values. Liberty will not lend its name and financial support to any club or organization that actively seeks to undermine the mission of the University and its core values.

Comment by jeofurry

Thanks Jeff! This reminds me of the post on a local Catholic University that did not wish to honor a Rainbow speaker. Now the big question on my mind is why pro-abortion Democrats would seek to further an education at Liberty? Seriously, does that look like a good match?
I appreciate and understand Liberty’s statement, still with the lousy press we get as Christians, I would offer that whatever positives come out of not supporting this splinter group, are swamped by the negative publicity brought on by what the world will no doubt call prejudice.
There are times when something might look like the moral thing to do, but but the image it portrays and the repercussions must be prayerfully considered before rash action.
I do not think our two party system undermines the U. If it is truly built on the Solid Rock, it will be very hard to undermine.

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